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Sanders to Supporters: Don’t Go Green

Bernie Sanders called on his supporters on Tuesday not to vote for the Green Party in protest of the Democrats.

“I don’t know the leadership of the Green Party, but I respect what they’re trying to do,” Sanders said at a Bloomberg event in Philadelphia, according to The Washington Post.

“They’re focusing on very, very important issues. But I think right now — what is it, three, four months before an election — you’re gonna end up having a choice. Either Hillary Clinton is going to become president, or [GOP nominee] Donald Trump.”

The Hill reports:

He reasoned that unlike in a parliamentary system, the choice is binary, so supporters of the Vermont senator will only be hurting their cause if they flee the Democratic Party.

“If we were in Europe right now, in Germany or elsewhere, the idea of coalition politics of different parties coming together — you’ve got a left party, you’ve got a center-left party, coming together against the center-right party. That’s not unusual,” he said.

“We don’t have that. We have and have had [two parties] for a very long period of time — and I know a little bit about this, as the longest serving independent member of Congress.”

Despite the eagerness from Stein and Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson, the two-party system makes it all but impossible for an outside party to win a state, let alone a presidential election.

The Green Party had its best showing with nominee Ralph Nader during the 2000 election, winning almost 3 million votes. But that didn’t translate to a single electoral vote.

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  • Peggy James

    “I will never tell you who to vote for. If I do, don’t listen to me.” Those are words quoted by Senator Sanders at a town hall meeting. In other words, let your conscious be your guide! If Senator Sanders does not appear on the ballot as the candidate for president, I will be voting for Doctor Jill Stein.

    • Alejandro Moreno S.

      let your conscience be your guide

    • Greg VanTongeren

      that’s right. He may be compelled in some way to urge a voting for Clinton but we know he really believes vote your conscience. Do not blindly follow others speaks to the need for being true to yourself. It is foolish to do otherwise.

      • Annie Jaworski

        I think he’s saying what he believes, but this was never about Sanders for those of you having a fit. It was about being radical and hating Clinton. Ronald McDonald would have had your support if he was running against Hillary and said the right buzz words 75 times a speech.

    • http://www.frumpgazette.com bettenoir

      that’s exactly what he’s telling you NOT to do

    • http://www.facebook.com/CheatingCannotBeTolerated moda

      I see this quote attributed to Bernie on many facebook pages, but I can’t find evidence that he ever actually said it. Not that I’m doubting it – but can you point me to a link, please?

      • Shirley_Mae

        • http://www.facebook.com/CheatingCannotBeTolerated moda

          Thanks for the link. I have that one saved and I thought maybe that was the one that was being referenced.
          So, that is not really what he said. I think it is only fair that if we are going to quote someone, we should actually quote them.
          These are his exact words:
          “You know, we are not a movement where I can snap my fingers and say to you or to anybody else what you should do, cuz you won’t listen to me; you shouldn’t. Now, you’ll make these decisions yourself.”

      • Taylor Glen

        I heard him say it on a news video, I replayed the item twice, at the time Bernie’s words were somewhat of a shock, if you search through Bernie’s speeches towards the end of the Primary elections you will find the clip, I’m sure.

    • Nancy

      Bernie has said repeatedly that we can’t have a Trump presidency and he will do what it takes to prevent it from happening. He is currently campaigning with Clinton. The only way that there is a guarantee that Trump will not win is if all progressives come together. Bernie will not be on the ballot. Bernie has said a green vote is a Trump vote. I don’t understand people voting for Trump. I also don’t understand why people who supported Bernie would vote green knowing it means they could possibly destroy everything they said they supported. The Democratic platform has all the issues in it that Bernie requested. Your conscience must be completely out of whack. Also, if the green party wants to be considered legit they need to start at the local level (school boards, city council, mayors) not at the top. The only time you hear anything about the green party is every four years. Absolutely ridiculous.

      • Allan Finkelstein

        Bernie is NOT God… and He makes mistakes too…. A Green Vote is a Vote For Green… what YOU make of it is up to your own Conscience!! I say a Vote for Clinton is NOT a Vote for Jill, but is a Vote for Trump!! What everyone else does is their own choice…

        Jill only does not win if everyone decides that enabling Corruption and empowering the oligarchy and establishment is an acceptable alternative… I say “Enough is Enough.. There is ALWAYS a Greater Evil.”

        It is time to take a stand!! A system will never be changed in the USA until it is broken Beyond repair!!

        • Janet Homza

          Agree. I am tired of DNC fear mongering. Their pleas to vote for Hillary fall on deaf ears because I vote Green.

      • Norman Hall

        Bernie is not campaigning with Clinton and he has never said a green vote is a Trump vote. I find it ironic that you are lying in order to get people to vote for a liar.

      • Janet Homza

        Quit forcing others choices with fear mongering. If Trump wins, at least he won fair and square unlike Mrs. Queen to be no matter the cost.

    • http://www.facebook.com/CheatingCannotBeTolerated moda

      If you’re going to quote my hero, please use HIS words!
      “You know, we are not a movement where I can snap my fingers and say to you or to anybody else what you should do, cuz you won’t listen to me; you shouldn’t. Now, you’ll make these decisions yourself.”
      There is a distinct difference.

    • Janet Homza

      I agree.

    • http://edclark.com/ Ed Clark

      yay, Peggy!! <3 Me, too.

    • Taylor Glen

      Yes.

  • barbradoll

    And he added, “You shouldn’t…” We won’t, Bernie! We know you’re being threatened to say these things for Hillary, and we promise not to take you seriously! We will vote for Jill Stein! <3

    • Annie Jaworski

      paranoid delusions from the very loud, and very small minority of radicals. You are no different from the Tea Party.

  • John Kennedy

  • Jeani

    WOW, all five of you who really want Trump for President, and were never with Bernie in the first place! Be morons and throw away your vote, you are too little to count, and most people who were with Senator Sanders are smart enough to now be voting for Hillary! : )

    • Flo_C

      https://www.facebook.com/jdecp?fref=nf

      The Red-Herring Fear Propaganda of a Third Party “Splitting the Vote”

      Let’s clear the air here and cut through the smoke. Voters are already “split” from the get-go, and that reality is not attributable in any way to a possible third-party candidacy.

      That same tired, silly argument about splitting support and handing victory to the other side was also made in 2008 in the primary battle between Hillary and Barack, and party “big guns” urged Hillary to drop out and concede the field to Barack. She didn’t bow out and lost outright to Barack.

      Now get this: on election day 2008, only slightly more than 62% of those eligible to vote came out to vote. In other words, nearly 40% were disaffected from the bipartisan contest and didn’t show up for the November election — and neither Bernie nor any third party was in any way responsible for such a “pre-existing split” among the electorate.

      Perhaps it was only the choice between Barack Obama and John McCain that just wasn’t sufficiently inspiring to bring out voters in overwhelming numbers.

      In the 2010 midterms, only about 41.5% of those eligible to vote bothered to vote, neither Bernie nor any third party was in any way responsible for nearly 60% of eligible voters not bothering to come out. In short, most voters eligible to vote were turned off by Obama’s first two years and fed up with the political process.

      In 2012, an estimated 57.5% (less than in 2008) bothered to vote. This means that 93 million eligible voters did not vote in 2012! And you just know by now that Bernie and no third party had absolutely anything to do with this falling off of interest in the contest between Barack and Mitt.

      So let’s put a stake in the silly notion of a Sanders or third-party candidacy “splitting” anything – it’s a fuzzy-minded, factually-deficient, make-believe scare tactic (not borne out by electoral numbers) that is used over and over again to dissuade (or scare) party faithful from truly voting their consciences (or interests) for a candidate (regardless of party) that really represents their values.

      And what that fear tactic does is to spook voters into voting for “the lesser of two evils (or undesirables)” — and we should know by now that that ruse only gets folks to hold their noses and vote for “evil” – that is, the lesser of two evils or to sit it out as has happened over and over again before.

      Folks, and then consider this: if each of the two major parties can only attract individually far less than half of the electorate to come out and vote for one or the other, then that obviously means that each of the two “major” (in name only) parties have long ago lost the support of MOST OF THE ELECTORATE. Let that indisputable fact sink in for moment.

      A recent Gallup poll has confirmed that fully 43% of those eligible to vote now consider themselves to be independents who are unaffiliated with either the Republican or Democratic party. In fact, there are more independents than there are partisans in either of the major parties (see http://www.gallup.com/…/new-record-political-independents.a…).

      In short, it is obvious that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans represent and work for the interests of the majority of the electorate as things now stand, and the electorate KNOWS IT. This has been the case for a long time.

      Realize, then, that this is the precondition for the emergence of a third party, a real people’s party. And it is this prospect that is “terrorizing” the establishment parties into using “the fear factor” to scare those voters who still vote to not break ranks and do the unthinkable: LOOK ELSEWHERE and vote their consciences for their values in the form of a party that is 100% for the 99% — which today means the Green Party of the United States.

      Inform yourself, and check it out: here are the Green Party’s Four Pillars and Ten Key Values at http://www.gp.org/ and the Green Party US platform at http://www.gp.org/platform.
      ‪#‎jillstein‬ ‪#‎itsinourhands‬ ‪#‎greenparty‬ ‪#‎greenpartyUS‬ ‪#‎berniesanders‬ ‪#‎dfa‬ ‪#‎moveon‬ ‪#‎pfaw‬ ‪#‎commoncause‬ ‪#‎robertreich‬ ‪#‎alangrayson‬ ‪#‎timcanova‬ ‪#‎jerrynadler‬ ‪#‎blacklivesmatter‬ ‪#‎palestinianlivesmatter‬ ‪#‎bds‬ ‪#‎us_campaign‬ ‪#‎adalahNY‬ ‪#‎rosariodawson‬ ‪#‎rosaclemente‬ ‪#‎susansarandon‬ ‪#‎usuncut‬ ‪#‎occupaywallstreet‬ #commoncause #pfaw ‪#‎cskahama‬ ‪#‎movement4bernie‬ ‪#‎youth4bernie‬ ‪#‎stillwithsanders‬ ‪#‎votegreen‬ #jillnothill #demexit #cornelwest

    • Linda Hansen

      I think you’re full of bluster. Quite honestly, you have NO clue as to how sick and tired we are of INCREMENTAL change. We also have NO faith or trust in Hillary Clinton. I for one don’t want Trump or her to be President. Fortunately, Trump has NO idea on how to get anything accomplished, so in my opinion, he’s not as big of a threat as she is. On the other hand, I don’t SEE how she’d get anything accomplished because of the fact the Republicans would be constantly attacking her and be very unwilling to work with her.

      • http://www.DemocracyNow.org MissNDemocracy

        given her war-mongering, corporatist history, we may be lucky if she can’t get anything done. she scares the begeesus outta me, and so does drumpf.

    • Joy Sams

      If we are too little to count… then why on EARTH do you CARE enough to bother with us? Move along now… we’ve got a planet to save. #NeverHillary #TheyStoleItFromBernie #FeelTheBern #JillNotHill

    • Kathleen Chippi

      lol Hil-LIAR-Y? to continue oBOMByas killing…yeah no thanks.

    • Ellen Eubank Staley Henry

      Nope..your are being deceived by the DNC About 85 to 90% of the Bernie supporters are RE stating They will never vote for Hillary…If you have slthered over to her side…you were never really a Bernie supporter in the first place Voting for someone you know is a criminal is what is truly” throwing away your vote”. Damn Hillary troll, go away..we’re not buying your crap.

  • Flo_C

    And then there’s this:

    https://www.facebook.com/jdecp?fref=nf

    The Red-Herring Fear Propaganda of a Third Party “Splitting the Vote”

    Let’s clear the air here and cut through the smoke. Voters are already “split” from the get-go, and that reality is not attributable in any way to a possible third-party candidacy.

    That same tired, silly argument about splitting support and handing victory to the other side was also made in 2008 in the primary battle between Hillary and Barack, and party “big guns” urged Hillary to drop out and concede the field to Barack. She didn’t bow out and lost outright to Barack.

    Now get this: on election day 2008, only slightly more than 62% of those eligible to vote came out to vote. In other words, nearly 40% were disaffected from the bipartisan contest and didn’t show up for the November election — and neither Bernie nor any third party was in any way responsible for such a “pre-existing split” among the electorate.

    Perhaps it was only the choice between Barack Obama and John McCain that just wasn’t sufficiently inspiring to bring out voters in overwhelming numbers.

    In the 2010 midterms, only about 41.5% of those eligible to vote bothered to vote, neither Bernie nor any third party was in any way responsible for nearly 60% of eligible voters not bothering to come out. In short, most voters eligible to vote were turned off by Obama’s first two years and fed up with the political process.

    In 2012, an estimated 57.5% (less than in 2008) bothered to vote. This means that 93 million eligible voters did not vote in 2012! And you just know by now that Bernie and no third party had absolutely anything to do with this falling off of interest in the contest between Barack and Mitt.

    So let’s put a stake in the silly notion of a Sanders or third-party candidacy “splitting” anything – it’s a fuzzy-minded, factually-deficient, make-believe scare tactic (not borne out by electoral numbers) that is used over and over again to dissuade (or scare) party faithful from truly voting their consciences (or interests) for a candidate (regardless of party) that really represents their values.

    And what that fear tactic does is to spook voters into voting for “the lesser of two evils (or undesirables)” — and we should know by now that that ruse only gets folks to hold their noses and vote for “evil” – that is, the lesser of two evils or to sit it out as has happened over and over again before.

    Folks, and then consider this: if each of the two major parties can only attract individually far less than half of the electorate to come out and vote for one or the other, then that obviously means that each of the two “major” (in name only) parties have long ago lost the support of MOST OF THE ELECTORATE. Let that indisputable fact sink in for moment.

    A recent Gallup poll has confirmed that fully 43% of those eligible to vote now consider themselves to be independents who are unaffiliated with either the Republican or Democratic party. In fact, there are more independents than there are partisans in either of the major parties (see http://www.gallup.com/…/new-record-political-independents.a…).

    In short, it is obvious that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans represent and work for the interests of the majority of the electorate as things now stand, and the electorate KNOWS IT. This has been the case for a long time.

    Realize, then, that this is the precondition for the emergence of a third party, a real people’s party. And it is this prospect that is “terrorizing” the establishment parties into using “the fear factor” to scare those voters who still vote to not break ranks and do the unthinkable: LOOK ELSEWHERE and vote their consciences for their values in the form of a party that is 100% for the 99% — which today means the Green Party of the United States.

    Inform yourself, and check it out: here are the Green Party’s Four Pillars and Ten Key Values at http://www.gp.org/ and the Green Party US platform at http://www.gp.org/platform.
    ‪#‎jillstein‬ ‪#‎itsinourhands‬ ‪#‎greenparty‬ ‪#‎greenpartyUS‬ ‪#‎berniesanders‬ ‪#‎dfa‬ ‪#‎moveon‬ ‪#‎pfaw‬ ‪#‎commoncause‬ ‪#‎robertreich‬ ‪#‎alangrayson‬ ‪#‎timcanova‬ ‪#‎jerrynadler‬ ‪#‎blacklivesmatter‬ ‪#‎palestinianlivesmatter‬ ‪#‎bds‬ ‪#‎us_campaign‬ ‪#‎adalahNY‬ ‪#‎rosariodawson‬ ‪#‎rosaclemente‬ ‪#‎susansarandon‬ ‪#‎usuncut‬ ‪#‎occupaywallstreet‬ #commoncause #pfaw ‪#‎cskahama‬ ‪#‎movement4bernie‬ ‪#‎youth4bernie‬ ‪#‎stillwithsanders‬ ‪#‎votegreen‬ #jillnothill #demexit #cornelwest

    • TutuWuwu

      Mahalo Plenty, Flo, for the real deal.

    • Annie Jaworski

      It’s not a red herring. It’s second grade math.

  • Sue Em

    The DNC refuses to abandon superdelegates so they can ensure they get their corporate pick every election with the help of the corporate media. If you vote for Hilary you are messing it up for future elections AGAIN! Enough is enough! No more lesser evil. Vote dem for the down tickets. Lets get a brandnewcongress.org! #jillnothill

  • Kathleen Chippi

    Ya know Bernie, keeping your word to lying scum bags who are not practicing democracy but voter fraud is just wrong…well I’ll be voting Green even though our votes are not counted anyways. I want to at least make them have to re-rig the voting machines…..

  • Ellen Eubank Staley Henry

    He did NOT tell his supporters “Don’t go Green” this “article” is pure DNC bullshit They keep trying to intimidate, or decive us into voting for Hillary…it is not working.

  • http://www.frumpgazette.com bettenoir

    you people are insane. the man is trying to talk you down off the ledge he put you on

  • Lunara111

    The people who followed Bernie blindly a few months ago, who thought he could do no wrong and was the Universe’s Gift to all of our problems… suddenly disagree with him?

    Check your egos at the door, like he is doing…. There are bigger fish to fry here (and the fish’s name is Trump). A vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote for the Big Orange-Faced Combed-Over Narcissistic Fish himself…

    • Allan Finkelstein

      Jill only does not win if everyone decides that enabling Corruption and empowering the oligarchy and establishment is an acceptable alternative… I say “Enough is Enough.. There is ALWAYS a Greater Evil.”

      Bernie is NOT God… and He makes mistakes too…. A Green Vote is a Vote For Green… what YOU make of it is up to your own Conscience!! I say a Vote for Clinton is NOT a Vote for Jill, but is a Vote for Trump!! What everyone else does is their own choice…

      It is time to take a stand!! A system will never be changed in the USA until it is broken Beyond repair!!

    • Janet Homza

      Trump may be a bigger fish but Hillary is a shark so I will take my chances with Trump if I am forced to choose between only 2 parties.

    • http://www.facebook.com/CheatingCannotBeTolerated moda

      Although I didn’t follow him blindly (I really did a lot of reading and studying before I made my decision), I was 100% Sanders. And I still am. As much as I don’t like her, and as hard as it is, I’m going to follow Bernie’s lead.
      This third party hoopla won’t work. Bernie knew that all along or he would have run as an Independent. Sheesh! And it seems to me that Stein is now riding on his coattails and using a lot of his thunder. She’s no Bernie.
      But when I saw what her VP pick said about Bernie and his supporters, that did it for me:
      (scroll down the page)
      http://fusion.net/story/332652/jill-stein-ajamu-baraka-beyonce/

  • Teresa Irving

    when he says dont vote green, i think he means hold your horses because anything can happen and most likely will, leading up to the election and then you may have to change your allegiance once again

  • FeshonALfliP

    Bernie, you’re still my man. I appreciate and respect what you’ve done for the movement. But, give me ONE reason besides a Trump presidency to vote for Clinton. I’ve yet to hear one. And I’m open to being swayed. Everyday that passes, the Dems grow farther away from my values. I won’t compromise my values or my vote. I’m voting Green unless Hillary can give me a sensible enough reason not to. I’m not afraid of a Trump presidency or who will be installing Supreme Court justices. I’m an tax paying, educated black man in a country that has legally mandated genocide of minorities. The only thing I’m worried about is getting home from work without being pulled over by jackboots and escaping the situation to continue to pay my bills and put my girls through college.

    So, until I have a valid reason other than fear of the “other”, I’ll be voting Green Party.

    • Annie Jaworski

      So you’re okay with a Trump presidency?

  • Allan Finkelstein

    If your aim is to Break the system and replace it… then it has to get
    broken!! It is NOT Always about Winning… It is also about advancing the cause and building the alternatives for the future!!!… and it is also about enabling the establishment’s Fear-Mongering…. YES Trump is BAD… and So is Hillary… and which one is Worse is a Judgement call…

  • jeffreysmoore153

    It’s about a movement not a man. I will never vote for Hillary.

  • Edeiwmurk Nivek

    Sanders doesn’t understand what his candidacy represented to his own supporters. We want nothing less than to see the Democrats lose every election until they denounce and expel their neoliberal wing.

  • http://edclark.com/ Ed Clark

    he’s saying that for the benefit of Clinton, because when she wins (barring an indictment and Bernie having set himself up to take over with his parlimentary maneuvering at the convention), and the Dems take back the house, either Bernie will lead some powerful committees or be majority leader….he had already told us “don’t listen to me”.

  • Jacob Sabat

    Bernie led us astray. It was understood by all that he would fight for the nomination at the convention. He didn’t.

    He could have made the case to the delegates and the superdelegates that he had a much better chance than Hillary of defeating Trump.

    Moreover, he could have presented the overwhelming evidence of election shenanigans that would have totally ruined her.

    He chose to do neither and left us to the DNC thugs.

    In addition, Bernie lied to us when he said that Hillary would “make an outstanding president”.

    It is clear that Bernie is afraid of Trump becoming President and he doesn’t want to harm Hillary in any way that might help Trump win.

    A braveheart would have accepted the invitation to run with Jill Stein. He obviously had little faith in the power of the People to get him elected.

    We were all counting on him to present the overwhelming evidence of election rigging that would have destroyed the Hillary campaign.

    Bernie copped out in the end.

    Be not deceived. Bernie betrayed the People.

  • Jacob Sabat

    Bernie lied to us when he said that Hillary would make an “outstanding President”. How dare he. We need people who always speak truth and are not afraid of death for themselves or their family. Apparently, Bernie is not one of them.

  • Jacob Sabat

    Here’s my proposal–
    First the cities, then the states, then the nation and then the world.
    Creating a Wonderful World. (let’s get it done already) https://www.facebook.com/groups/379816208803429

  • Michelle Bush

    Dear Sen. Sanders, I was never going to vote for HRC. I intend to stick to my guns. Good thing I’m grown with a mind of my own.